Blizz-hackers: Flame-wars

With force there comes responsibility (Story of WDDG)

There was big need of somebody completing DB for WOWEmu, the two teams have arisen. WDDG started as small group with few spawners and scripters and grown to giant mastodont with ambitions to create it’s own emulator. Blackstorm ran their own server and got tired of WDDG so they privately started developing their own db, later they decided to release it to the public. It was rumored that they left wowemuscene because of Blizz threated them when they tried to mod client, but Savage refused it. They recently returned with new versions of their DB for WOWEmu.

Savage’s memoires

At its height Blackstorm had 68 active members, directly contributing to the database and another 47 that sent in scripts and fixes via email. At that time, I felt too much pressure and decided to hand the project off to Booswig, at that time many members left and joined other teams. We where never threatened by Blizzard with any kind of action concerning mods, it was all rumors. I returned to find a desolate team with no members left and since then have taken on several new and old members that have been working on updates and expanding the database. For the record, Blackstorm started on 16 November 2004 and first public release of work was on 3 Feb 2005, WDDG came into existince on 13 Feb 2005 with 2 members, RaymerJacque and AmaPussy, the later whom was a mod on a forum that we released on.

But let’s concentrate on WDDG. They were lead by ambitious and self-confident man “raymerjacques”. He sounded like lifesaver to most at the beginning. DB evolved and whole WOWEmu scene broken into two parts. One part hated WDDG and another loved them. Loving people believed everything what raymer said, once he said there is emulator being worked on WDDG, everybody known that it can be true (MaddoxX promised help when he joined wow-emulation with promises of 100000 ppl server). One day something went wrong and link to Ludmilla bins v0.0.1 were posted in non-dev section of WDDG forum. Phaser grabbed it and later shown it to whole world, raymer as revenge leaked wowd’s sources (it’s been leaked by Kronos, who was given by Spacey for stress testing it on his box) updated in underground by shouji (WantedMan and others, dunno who, since it was private), that was followed (BTW Ludmilla started with this as a base AFAIK). And real war begun. Raymer started to act like low-minded everytime when the word Ludmilla was written, he declined that Ludmilla uses wowd sources leaked few months ago. There was peace for a while, it lasted about a month. The flamewars began again, when WDDG started to accept donations for upcoming 100% Blizz-like emulator (betatesting and access into donors section), which had to be done for Christmas. He flamed, other flamed, he flamed, other flamed, and round and round… It everything ended up with IRPG team leaving WDDG and releasing sources to public (i’m not using word: “leaking” cause raymer based it on GPL’d source of WOWD which was based on Team Python, don’t agree with me if you don’t want, maybe I don’t understand what’s going on, but anyway… i’m not a pro-developer, so maybe my opinions are stupid) WDDG got a great hit and refused to continue publicly, shutdown it’s forum and went underground again. Who knows what’s going on with them right now. Ludmilla is alive once more again… read on to know more

Two points of view from two main acteurs of the Ludmilla affair (I was too lazy to rewrite my text, so I’ll add just those quotes

Phaser

The Ludmilla server was located on an FTP, discovered by a friend of mine. He gave me the link and I downloaded all the stuff there, including the binaries. I then told shouji and gave it to him, because there was a pretty good DB with over 3000+ quests from IRPG. I told him not to give it to anyone and just use the DB as it its. I then contacted raymer and told him that I have his precious Ludmilla and that i would not leak it if he answers some questions that i asked. He (of course) acted like a jerk (yet again) mumbling that Ludmilla was created using code from WoWD, WowwoW, RunWoW, WoWEmu (yeah, that’s right). He told lies and lies how he had databases for all the emulators that were famous back there. RJ said that his team worked on databases for all the emulators, even RunWoW. It was clearly obvious he was using WoWD core and nothing more. But the bastard would just not admit it. So when another flamewar began at BH where Ludmilla was accused of using WoWD core and not their own as they said it would, shouji got mad and leaked the files I gave him. It was not me who leaked it, it was shouji. And therefore he is responsible for the sources that were leaked from his own emulator. I merely acted as a conjunction between two opposing sides. Do not blame me for the death of shouji’s project.

shouji

You are right, I was the one who leaked Ludmilla (Crudmilla :P) I leaked the bin that you gave me. I gave kronos WOWD src to test on this Linux box (as WOWD was getting stable and full of features we had to stress test the new cellcode that was added) we needed mass newb testers to test out the new core thus this is why i gave him the src to compile it on his box. At that time I didn’t even know of the existance of WDDG scums. Kronoss leaked the src to raya0dhasdmer(don’t remember his name) and the dev of Ludmilla started, kronoss aware of blizzard spying out he formed mangos team to be “opensrc” but his primary objective was to make blizzard take its eyes out of WDDG and look touwards mangos, wowd vanished as all coders got pissed cause of the leak. Then Ludmilla was leaked by who knows who and Blizz could finally pawn WDDG team and this as you all know happened.